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Post  Administrator Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:06 pm

Recently, a famous Hong Kong star commented in the media that Singaporeans have no self-respect. With reference to your interactions with fellow Singporeans in your daily lives, do you agree with the him? Do you think Singaporeans still have a long way to way to attain graciousness?
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Post  Esther Koh (073982D) Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:04 am

Recently, a famous Hong Kong star commented in the media that Singaporeans have no self-respect. With reference to your interactions with fellow Singporeans in your daily lives, do you agree with the him? Do you think Singaporeans still have a long way to way to attain graciousness?

18 years of living in the Singaporean society, it has never once occurred to me that someone would comment so publicly that we are a bunch of people with no "self-respect".

I do agree with him, but in some ways, this no self-respect can be found world wide, its just the worst place to find it could probably be Singapore. It stands out, because people like this Hong Kong star probably had a good image of Singapore, before it got tarnish by this no self-respect issue.
The culture of no self-respect could no doubt be found in many people of the older generation. In my views, the teenagers of my age would have to be uncivilly brought up to do such an ungraceful thing.

In a whole, we Singaporeans have a long way to being a better person to the society of the world.
Improvement could be a few generations away, where the "Kiasu & Kiasi", no self-respect generation pass on, and the more civilized will rise and take their place.
We could all be just a little more patient.

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Post  C3_Nur Aisyah Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:21 pm

Administrator wrote:Recently, a famous Hong Kong star commented in the media that Singaporeans have no self-respect. With reference to your interactions with fellow Singporeans in your daily lives, do you agree with the him? Do you think Singaporeans still have a long way to way to attain graciousness?

I agree with what the Hong Kong actor had said but only to certain extent. Basically, some Singaporeans do not have self-respect. Some Singaporeans do not respect each other and some have no courtesy at all. If we do not respect each other, how do we gain our self respect then? Apart from this, kiasu-ism still exists amongst some Singaporeans.

In my point of view, the phrase “thank you” does not exist in their dictionary. It is such a simple gesture, yet difficult to deliver. There are many scenarios that we can see in our everyday lives that depicts the ungracious behaviour of these people. I believe most of us have experienced this before at least a few times. I find it irritating as it portrays bad image of that individual and leaves a bad impression if a visitor from other countries were to see.

There is still long way to go for Singaporeans to attain graciousness. Besides the kindness movement campaign that is still going on, I think there is a need to have another campaign that can create a better awareness about being more courteous.
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Post  C3_xXJiaHaoXx Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:39 pm

Recently, a famous Hong Kong star commented in the media that Singaporeans have no self-respect. With reference to your interactions with fellow Singaporeans in your daily lives, do you agree with the him? Do you think Singaporeans still have a long way to way to attain graciousness?

With regards to what this famous Hong Kong star has said, I agree to his statement to some extents....After all, there are about 5 billion people in Singapore and it doesn't mean all of them are selfish; therefore, it is just the minority of them that lacks self-respect.
Yes, I have to admit that most of the youngsters nowadays has lacked self-respect...there do not respect the teachers, their friends and even their own families, they take thing for granted and never admit their mistakes. But from my experience, I must say that the youngsters are not to be blamed...The cause for this problem come from the parent of the youngsters, they nurture them in a way to be like them...the so-called second generation of kiasu-ism. This mindset acts in away that make you think that you will lose out if you do not do it and this mindset can only be found in Singapore which make Singapore an uniquely Singapore as stated by the tourism logo….I have to admit that even though I am not a Singaporean, I have been influenced by this custom and I am abit ashamed but definitely, I am confident to say that no man is perfect but we can move towards perfect. Singapore is one good example, it is nearly a perfect country with good geographic location and good education, but we, the residents are not perfect, we speak Singlish and also speak vulgarism like it is a trend….who is it to be blamed but the ones I just mentioned?
To what I think, Singaporeans still have a long way to gain graciousness is just an excuse, by having education such as civics and moral education is not enough, the government should work with parents to educate the young and acts as a good example for them. By nurturing them from young, the youngsters should grow up to be self-respecting and with the suitable environment, their off-springs may become what they have become in the future....

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Post  084064B Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:00 pm

I beg to differ. S'poreans, in general, are not all that a bunch of selfish folks with a bad attitude, contrary to popular belief. We can't simply throw in the towel over just a typical lunch-time scene at local food courts where hungry office workers blatantly use tissue packets to save themselves seats and those who couldn't clear up after their meals, right? This is not entirely a sign of poor social etiquette but rather the occupational hazard of office life here to blame and of course we don't expect to see those office workers decked in ties and expensive suits to be quickly clearing out their plates before they take flight? A glimpse at the heartlands, such as when you board the trains, it is not unusual to find people giving up their seats to the elderly, and you know, s'poreans are also a generous and compassionate lot who still readily reach into their pockets to support charitable causes in the backdrop of an ailing economy. Perhaps, s'poreans do not wear affections on their lips all the time, but we certainly do have heart toward fellow s'poreans. Graciousness may only come naturally as a habit which has to be cultivated since young, but this doesn't mean s'poreans cannot make graciousness a part of our identity. I'm positive the government's effort to promote graciousness through mass media and campaigns will in time, weave its way into the hearts and minds of us s'poreans.

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Post  Tang Suk Yi Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:47 pm

Recently, a famous Hong Kong star commented in the media that Singaporeans have no self-respect. With reference to your interactions with fellow Singporeans in your daily lives, do you agree with him? Do you think Singaporeans still have a long way to way to attain graciousness?

First and foremost, as nobody is perfect in this world, I agree with him to a certain extent. Due to the fact that Singaporeans like other mankinds has its flaws, but at the same time Singaporean possess admirable moral values which will earn the respect from citizens of foreign countries.

Being a Singaporean, I feel that we should not put on a defensive barrier against criticism instead we should reflect on our own actions and improve on the areas that are required. By doing so, it will not only benefit us personally, it will also provide excellent impressions to foreign countries that we treasure their opinion and improvise/upgrade ourselves to work towards for a better future.

In my opinion, self respect is not about what we do, but who we are. It is about feeling valued. It is about being able to stand tall and feel proud of ourselves. It is the cornerstone on which many other attributes are built such as honesty, confidence, and integrity.

With the help of the government and media, many campaigns have been introduced to promote on graciousness. Hence, I believe that in due time Singaporean will attain graciousness.

Therefore, I feel that it is essential that everybody learn how to respect ourselves not only for our own benefits but also for Singapore. By doing so I believe that others will respect you in return. That is also the golden rule in life: “Treat others the way you want them to treat you.”

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Post  C3_Nabila Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:09 am

Recently, a famous Hong Kong star commented in the media that Singaporeans have no self-respect. With reference to your interactions with fellow Singaporeans in your daily lives, do you agree with the him? Do you think Singaporeans still have a long way to way to attain graciousness?

I agree to a certain extend regarding that Singaporeans have no self-respect. However He should not have make such senseless remarks as he doesn't understand Singaporean culture and law in depth. Then again, it depends on one background, how they are brought up and how much education they received. For instance, when we are young, we are taught to respect the elderly, to say excuse me when you cough and to acknowledge the elderly when we are leaving the house. Most of the knowledge we have are taught by our parents, as children are very observance and will follow their characters. Besides, as young as in pre-school, civic education is already being taught.
However, despite how much education we received from schools the young generation today does not seem to be showing basic self-respect.
For instance, there was this incident in the train that I have encountered, I was with my grandmother who is quite old and does not have that much strength to walk and stand. It was the peak hour; hence, the train is very crowded. We boarded the train and stood where the priority sit are, sitting was this two teenage girls happily conversing. They saw how close we stood in front of them but they continue talking aloud. Even there were stares by the crowd they do not seem to mind. Thus, she has to struggle her way balancing for the next six stations.

On the other hand, there were many other lack of self-respect and civic-consciousness incident that I came across, mostly coming from the younger generation. Does this imply that education today does not emphasize more on civic and moral education? OR, parents are not playing their part in educating their children in self-respect?

Hence, from what I have experience and come across, I feel that Singapore need to stress on moral education especially towards the younger generation. For instance, instead of implementing Family day event on every 24 May, they should have it every last Sunday of the month. There, they should have campaigns on civic-consciousness focusing on self-respect. As a whole, there is still a long way for Singaporean to attain the graciousness where government should step in and look into it.

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Post  M.Rahmathunnisa_C3 Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:28 pm

Recently, a famous Hong Kong star commented in the media that Singaporeans have no self-respect. With reference to your interactions with fellow Singaporeans in your daily lives, do you agree with the him? Do you think Singaporeans still have a long way to way to attain graciousness?

Having interacted with myriad Singaporeans, I do not agree to a large extent with this HK star.
Singaporeans, at least those whom I have interacted with, show self-respect in terms of modesty, appearance, courtesy, articulateness and so on. A typical Singaporean just greeting his neighbor when he sees him in the morning, with a polite gesture and smile shows well enough that he respects not just himself, but others around him too. This respect is developed from within. First, you respect yourself, and then the others around you.
Take another typical Singaporean for example, giving way to an elderly before boarding the bus himself. This also shows that he respects others as well, something that comes beyond self-respect.

Just a week ago, when I was in the train (MRT), I saw a teenage girl wearing her school uniform. Her uniform, though perfect and in tip-top appearance, was still neat and tidy on her. Comparing this to a situation where she chooses to just leave her shirt entirely not tucked in and look all shaggy and haggard. This goes to show that she respects herself, in terms of appearance. I think that this simple example reflects the self-respect that Singaporeans generally have.

However, like all situations, there are black sheep as well. One can never find a perfect city with perfect people. I don’t deny this fact. However, this is just a minority and I feel that it is not fair to us when the HK star gives a passing judgment as Singaporeans lacking self-respect as a whole. Perhaps, it so happened that the Singaporeans he interacted whilst here or elsewhere happened to be that minority.
On the whole, I think that Singaporeans could improve on our graciousness, but it’s not that there is a long way to go. I feel that we already have it in us, it’s just the way we put it across to others around us.

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Post  081516w Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:49 pm

Recently, a famous Hong Kong star commented in the media that Singaporeans have no self-respect. With reference to your interactions with fellow Singaporeans in your daily lives, do you agree with the him? Do you think Singaporeans still have a long way to way to attain graciousness?

Well.. Singaporean are still a long way to go from attaining graciousness and an acceptable amount of self-respect. Personally i'v encountered and faced a few occasions whereby Singaporeans are not only selfish but are disrespectful towards others. Once I was walking towards a mall, when I saw an old lady sitting on the floor. She was in a poor state with torn clothes and messed up hair. She was asking for some donations and help from passer-by. But none of them help her, most of them gave her 'disgusted stare'. To prevent this we can teach our youngs ones how to respect others and also to have self respect.

Even in trains, commuters still refuse to give up their seats to elderly or those who are in need. Governement has to come up with campaigns to encourage people to give up their seats to others. This shows that Singaporeans still lacks that initiative and respect towards others.

I'm a motorist and on the road i'v encountered countless number of selfishness acts from Singapore drivers. Refusing to give way, refusing to look out for riders who are small compared to other drivers. These are just some of the acts that Singapore drivers show when they are on the road. Therefore to sum up, I don't agree with what the Hong Kong Star said about Singaporeans having no self-respect, Singaporeans are slowly learning about self-respect after the government set up campaigns on how to behave. But sad to say I have to agree that Singaporeans are a long way away from having a substainsial amount of graciousness.

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Post  C3_peiming Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:17 am

I do not totally agree to the comment the famous Hong Kong star made. It is because it may be because the HK start met a particular person that do not have self-respect and take it that all Singaporeans are all the same.

However in general Singaporeans need to be more courteous and gracious. I believe we are aware of it and there have been posters on the public transport reminding us to offer up the seats to someone who needs it more then we do. As well as to allow people who are alighting the MRT to leave first before we board the train. It may seem a basic thing but not many would put them into practice. It may be because of the culture and how we were brought up and as people are aware of such unpleasant actions, such posters would act as a reminder to all.

Last week ,as I was in the bus and it was not during peak hours. There were still seats available. There was an elderly that just board the bus and as he was approaching the priority seats, this man immediately stood up to offer his seat as I believe he did not want the elderly to walk all the way to the back for the seat. I was very encouraged by his actions. It shows me that there are still courteous people around.
Everyday we are learning, be it old or young. It is just whether we put them into practice. I believe our parents taught us and even in school, we were taught what to do. I believe with the campaigns and posters up, it will build awareness in us, Singaporeans and we will soon one day be a country where people will praise us just like the way we have kept our country green and clean.

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Post  Nur Amirah Sun Jun 28, 2009 4:19 pm

I think many would agree with me if it's illogical to blame a whole country for maybe a few percent of wrong doings. Sure, i agree that i have witnessed a few acts where Singaporeans are not well regarded in that area. Singapore has indeed a long way to go into being a country where people look up to in regards to being the most respected country because i am positive that this goes out to almost every country, even the one from where that star resides in, he can't say that there aren't a few bad eggs in his own country now can he?

There had always been and still has a certain level of "bad" in every country, no one can deny that.
Therefore, i disagree with him to a certain extent.

Take the example of the basic courtesy of saying thank you, I'm sorry, and so on. I am sure that many Singaporeans are at least this courteous as to say thank you for the small act of pressing the button in an elevator, for offering a seat to an elderly, for holding the door for someone who's also on the way out, and many more. And if this was kept up with more practice with movements, and not just words, like simply returning the tray you used to carry your food, or helping someone on a wheelchair across the street, maybe just maybe it'll influence everyone else to do the same, to feel the same way. Singaporeans do deserve the condition of being honoured, because we do have self-respect, at least most of us.

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Post  Norasiah Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:01 pm

Well, I do agree with him. Self respect in both physical and mental is the most important because it tells the expression of the particular person. Singapore is a developed country but yet the people are not developed enough to be a respected people. They are far away from reaching the goal because of the kiasu-ness they are adapting now and what they are being taught. Sometimes, they want to be respected because of their rank or they much older without even say "Thank you" or "Sorry".
I feel very embarrsed with these singapore people where I am living now. It is like " Once you in my property, don'y mess around with it" that kind of thing. Sometimes I make criticism on the foreigners of not english educated especially the bus driver because most of them are china people. But I was wrong. There was an incident that the passenger scolded the bus driver for being late. The bus driver apologised but the passenger didn't even care.I can see that the passenger really look down on the foreigner and said, " Go back to your country lah!".
If this kind of incident showcase around the world, singapore for sure will be affected by the political issue and tourism or even a big riot from china people. I think this situation has to stop so that singapore has a better place for foreigners to stay safe like their home.

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Post  085361d Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:30 pm

I agree to a certain extent.there will certainly have some rotten apple in the country that spoil the image.Singapore is a developed country,and mostly are educated,however,some still doesnt posses the basic courtesy.I think some measure are taken to ensure the public to have the basic coutesy,such as the politeness lion and the reseverd seat in mrt.however there are still some ppl who doesnt give the reserved seat to those needy people.not just to said those "reserved seat",i think some stand and give the reserved seat just becos they are afraid of those stared and embarrassement,not becos they wanted to let those seat to the needy.i think all this basic politeness stuff have to be taught since as a children.

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Post  rockywong Mon Jul 13, 2009 12:14 am

Self respect is not about what we do, but it’s about who we are. But I agree with what the Hong Kong actor only to certain extent. Well Basically, DOES SINGAPOREAN HAVE SELF-RESPECT? The answer is yes & no. From my point of view Singaporeans still got quite a long way to go. There is just TOO MUCH TYPICAL SINGAPOREAN.

I have encountered a lot a lot of those typical Singaporean with no self-respect. Some Singaporeans do not respect each other and some have no courtesy at all. If we do not respect each other, how do we gain our self respect then? Kiasu-ism is one of the things that WE Singaporean will always have. A simple word “thank you” is also pretty hard for some people to do it, some people simply don’t care. A simple smile is also a very hard thing to do for those what we call typical Singaporean. And as we know Singapore is a racial harmony country thus we have all KINDS of people. For example ah ban, ah lian, ah hua, madrad and minas all this are the typical people who will cause troubles. If we can minimise the amount of these people Singapore will be a better place.

This is what we call “Habitual” it is something we live with like it is part of our life. It’s going to take years and years and years for us Singaporean to change all this habits.

But to finalize, my conclusion is that no one is perfect in this world or I should say no country is perfect. It’s going to take a lot more generation to achieve what we call a better society.

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